the first with mark of Thomas Moore II, London 1758, fluted double pouring lipped bowl, simple tubular socket holding a (later and detached) twisted baleen handle with silver fittings and terminal, overall length 33cm; the second with mark of Thomas Morley (1780-93), marks almost erased, beaded edged oval lipped bowl, beaded flat strip mount flaring to a short tubular socket holding the twisted baleen handle with silver terminal, overall length 39cm, both monogrammed to the underside (2)